Yes you are right to answer your own question. The GoPro 8 black is designed more for the active young who are Ski, Skateboard, and Surf enthusiast. For Karma my choice is still the GoPro 5 black.
This time next week I will be on my way to Rarotonga in the the Cook Island. I will be back on line in mid January. So have a Merry Christmas, I am!